Tuesday, March 27, 2007

On the Incident of the 9mm & Jim Webb's Aide

I reckon that I'm expected to weigh in on this whole kerfuffle with Jim Webb's aide, Phillip Thompson, getting caught with a 9mm in his bag on his way in to work when he'd forgotten it was there. All righty then.

First of all, let's look at what Webb did. He has a Concealed Weapon Permit. Good for him. When he was about to enter an airport to get on a plane, he removed the weapon from his person in order to comply with airport regulations. Another good thing. Then he entrusted it to his closest aide, a man who is a law abiding adult well-known to Webb and legally entitled to possess arms. Once again, Webb did the responsible thing.

Then we come to what Thompson did. He forgot that the pistol was in his bag. That was a mistake. He entered Washington DC, which does not honor Concealed Weapon Permits from Virginia (or any other state) and does not allow firearms to be carried at all except in the case of a 'peaceable journey' in which one is transporting firearms through the district on their way someplace else without stopping.

The very fact that Thompson put the bag into the X-ray machine demonstrates that there was no criminal intent. Rather, he made a careless mistake. At no time can I see that Thompson put any person in danger through his actions. He did not point it anywhere he shouldn't have, did not discharge it or otherwise handle it in an unsafe manner. It was just sitting there in his bag.

A firearm does not just attack someone on it's own. Someone has to pull back the slide, flip the safety off, put their finger on the trigger and pull it. Thus I do not buy any arguement that it was possible for Thompson to have endangered any person through his actions.

He did break the rule. Capitol police did the right thing in arresting him. Security in this of all places has to be taken seriously.

However, it is important to make a distinction between what is a wise course of action for a police officer at the time of an incident and what is a wise course of action for a prosecutor once the facts have become clear. When you have a situation like this one in which there can be no doubt that the violation was an honest mistake in which no person was hurt or endangered, a good prosecutor should decline to go forward with charges. A prosecutor's job is to act as an attorney for the interest of the public whom he or she serves. How is it in the public interest to press charges against Phillip Thompson?

I have never bought into this modern 'zero tolerance' nonsense in public schools where they expel kids or try to throw them in jail for having a Swiss army knife in a pocket or an asprin in a purse. It is absolute idiocy. The thing to do in these sorts of cases is to take away the knife, give it back to the parents, make sure that the rule is now clearly understood and leave it at that. The same is true of 'zero tolerance' in other public arenas. Treating people like criminals for honest human errors is the perversion of justice. This is why we have prosecutors, in my opinion. It should be the fail-safe mechanism by which the letter of the law does not doom every innocent person who may possibly be swept up in it. A human being who can say ' this was technically illegal but pursuing it would be stupid.'

Lest I be accused of defending Thompson simply because he works for a fellow Democrat, I remind my dear readers of my recent defense of Scooter Libby and pleas that he be kept out of prison. I have no double standard.

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Democrats suddenly love the second amendment now that one of their own is in trouble over it. Typical.

Jack Landers said...

I am the last person on the entire internet who you get to say that to.

badrose said...

You go, Jack!

Anonymous said...

Senator Webb has said that he did not give him the firearm. Better wait for the hearing. It is generally a good idea not to prejudge these things.

Anyhow Anonymous 1:54, there are a large number of Democrats who support the second amendment (and the others, too).

Judge Smails said...

I generally agree with what you wrote, Jack, but doubt the DC prosecutor will use his discretion not to prosecute as you advocate. It's simply too high-profile a case and would open the door to all sorts of "I-just-forgot-the-gun-was-in-the-glovebox" defenses. Granted, they wouldn't have any force, but what a pain in the ass for DC prosecutors.

kilo said...

Who do you believe Jackson, Webb or the Staffer? I mean your whole story is now in question with Webb's statement. Webb declines to comment on if it was his gun? HUH?

MB said...

What gets Webb a kick in the ass from me is his ridiculous invocation of 9/11. Dumbassery.

Jack Landers said...

Kilo,

I haven't seen really specific quotes from the aide yet so I'm not sure yet that they are really contradictory.

For example, we know that there were 3 cars full of people and stuff going to the airport that day. Some stuff and people were going on the plane and other stuff and people were going back to Webb's McLean office or the Capitol. So perhaps Webb puts the pistol and it's 2 magazines in a bag of stuff that was supposed to go back to McLean and tells the group of people, 'ok, this bag with my 9mm and XYZ other stuff needs to get dropped off in Mclean and take these other bags to my office at the Capitol.'

Then in the general flurry, Thompson thinks that someone else has the bag with the 9mm and that he's got the one to go to the Senate office. So Webb could be honestly saying that he gave Thompson the pistol while Thompson didn't even realize it.

Bear in mind that Webb's staff is full of former Marines. Thompson is a former Marine who then wrote for Stars & Stripes' for years before working on Webb's Senate campaign and coming on as staff. Webb's one-armed radio man from Vietnam is also one of his senior people. So from a practical standpoint in terms of who he wanted to have posession of the weapon, it really didn't matter much. These are all guys who have been handling and sharing firearms all their lives.

Incidentally, I am not convinced that the weapon was loaded. As we all know, one must always unload a weapon before handing it to someone. I reckon that should go for a weapon in a bag as well as in the hand. That would have been a real safety faux pas on Webb's part. But we're talking about reporters who don't know the difference between a clip and a magazine. I will be very surprised if it does not turn out that it was only the magazines which were loaded and that neither of them was actually in the weapon.

At the end of the day, what you have here is a bunch of Marines who are comfortable and responsible with firearms and for whom having one in a bag on on the hip is no big deal. They ran into some un-Constitutional BS when Thompson drove into DC and was penalized for doing something that in no way endangered anyone.

Jim Webb, his staff, myself and most of the other Bullmoose, Webb-supporting progressives have *always* opposed the unconstitutional DC gun ban. This is nothing new.

Again, I'm all in favor of security at the doors of the Capitol building and they did the right thing by stopping him and investigating the matter. But that's as far as this should go.

I swear, this whole thing now has me so pissed off that I'm tempted to go out and buy a 9mm this afternoon on general principle. Lacking the funds, I may have to settle for a box of .38 special target loads and make some tin cans scream for mercy after work.

Jack Landers said...

Judge Smails,

It's DC. A non-freedom zone. I don't actually expect the prosecutor to do what I'm suggesting. He or she should have been going about things this way all along. That's just what I would do if I was the prosecutor and it reflects my view of what a prosecutor's proper role in the justice system really is.

kilo said...

WASHINGTON Mar 27, 2007 (AP)— A senior aide to U.S. Sen. Jim Webb pleaded not guilty to weapons charges Tuesday after he allegedly entered a Senate office building with a loaded pistol
So the capital police are lying about the gun being loaded?
Webb did not give the staffer the gun?
What does being a Marine have to do with any of this?
This story stinks from top to bottom. It gives people who properly take gun ownership and safety seriously.

spankthatdonkey said...

Jackson says: "Jim Webb, his staff, myself and most of the other Bullmoose, Webb-supporting progressives have *always* opposed the unconstitutional DC gun ban. This is nothing new."

Bull Freaking Moose! Maybe you haven't checked out some of our posts for Lowell to defend his 'Bull Moose' credentials!

You remember Lowell right?

http://www.spankthatdonkey.com/spankthatdonkey2/2007/3/4/lowell-if-teddy-is-your-man-you-should-support-hunter.html

http://www.spankthatdonkey.com/spankthatdonkey2/2007/3/1/lowell-work-with-me-on-this.html

http://www.spankthatdonkey.com/spankthatdonkey2/2007/2/27/hey-lowell-listen-to-teddy.html

I hate to tell you Jackson, it is painfully clear if you read Teddy's speeches, and especially the 'Strenous Life', Teddy would kick Webb square in the groin...

Anonymous said...

As a life-long Democrat, what disturbs me most about the whole event is Webb's reaction. Is this suppose to be a stand-up marine with integrity? Isn't he suppose to have alot more character than the guy he defeated in November? Instead of stepping up to the plate, his reaction on March 27th was "did not give aide Phillip Thompson the gun that led to his arrest in a Senate office building. Webb did not say whether it was his gun."

If that's the way he treats "a long--term friend and trusted employee," I would hate to be his enemy. To be frank, I never trusted a man who was a Democrat, Republican, Democrat, Republican and now a Democrat again. Where's Harris Miller when you need him? First he is borish to the President and now he is turning on a supporter, I can't wait to see how Webb further embarrasses the Commonwealth.

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